![]() ![]() ![]() THATS what this is about, not "how good he CAN be". and eurydice has all 3 objectively useful) that is objectively useful regardless of how your run is going, but patroclus's are dependent on various circumstances AND there are very real circumstances where what he offers is extremely minimal value. at least money is objectively always helpful. they have at least one reward (go ahead, argue about sisyphus's rewards. Its not about comparing number value or strength, its about the fundamental design and function of patroclus's rewards compared to the other friends. additionally, the choice to take it to hades comes with the TRADEOFF of power by forgoing 3 tunnel rewards AND whatever money you make from them to buy stuff from the shop (if you cant afford it all already). additionally, some people have pointed out that you CAN take it all the way to hades, BUT that is a gamble on whether patroclus was within two encounters of theseus AND that you find the sack in the second tunnel. the second one is only really beneficial if you are attack focused, and generally goes to waste if you are special, cast, or boon damage (poison/doom/lightning) based. the first two are the same niche of "i made mistakes and took damage" to varying degrees, and they can help compensate that. patroclus's rewards are dependent on circumstances/niches. both other friends offer rewards that are beneficial REGARDLESS of run state. im not talking about numbers or POTENTIAL impact, im talking about the potential NON-impact. im not saying he's too strong or not strong enough. these days, due to rarely dying at all before his encounter showing up, i find that i just dont have the incentive to visit him (also bouldy companion ftw anyway, the only reason to progress his story is for completion sake for me).Įdit: apparently people seem to be misunderstanding something here. Having death defiances or not can be run defining, and the cost (200 each) is huge value (maybe even TOO much) if you're missing any. especially due to the design of styx, you probably cant even bring it to the end of the second tunnel. but its really only going to last through theseus. attack deals +60% damage? pretty strong if you are attack focused and not special or cast focused. heal a bunch each room? yeah sure, if you arent missing lives but are low health, it can definitely be a help to top off before the boss. i would honestly never choose stubborn defiance, so im not even sure if that option is remotely worth it, but it runs into the same problem as the other things. ![]() the only reason i ever choose him over something else is if i need to restore death defiances. Sisyphus offers darkness (good for your entire future), money (good for the entire rest of your run, especially if you spend it on a boon), and healing (arguably good for the entire rest of the run, but situational).Įurydice modifies boons, and all of them have a lasting impact on the entire rest of your run. ![]()
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